X – Are we seeing the end of harassment soon?

Yeah I know I’m using Marcus Fenix from the Gears of War games in the banner, but his face are fitting too well to not make use of it.

A little post on reddit caught my eye earlier today. The user that goes by the name of nerdyfeminist234234 (the account were made just before the post, so looks like a throwaway account for some reason) tells about a little, but very compelling story from when she played some EVE Online.

I’ve corrected some of the text for easy reading.

I play EVE Online – a MMO that the developers say is over 98% male. The sausage fest of spaceship nerds can be overpoweringly sexist and crass and juvenile, just like reddit can get at times.

So last night I was in a large fleet – over 600 people flying together from many different countries. At one point, a female voice pops up on coms[intercom]. As expected, dozens of people instantly start saying how hot her voice is, show us your tits, the typical internet crap.

But what surprised me was that the fleet commander called them on it. He told them to shut up, and what in the world made them think that was funny or acceptable in the first place. Someone said “relax man we are just having fun.” But again, he called them on it and told them to stop being part of the problem and to stop harassing people. As I listened to this conversation being translated to the various languages as the fleet moved on, it was interesting to hear the silence and then a few mumbled apologies.

Nothing big, I know, but I was proud. Maybe decency and feminism will penetrate even the deepest corners of the internet nerd man cave 🙂

More of this should happen. In the last year or so, there have been countless posts both on big sites such as Kotaku, to smaller, more private blogs about the issue with different angles. As expected, the response to these posts are very mixed, because most people does realise it’s harassment while the jerks who comes with these remarks are in high numbers with big mouths and fast fingers for their keyboards. It does looks like that more people realise it’s an actual problem, and that it can’t be denied or shaken off any longer – and we’re closing in on grading this as we’re grading racism. I look forward to that.


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Getting sucked into games by Super Mario as a kid, gaming got on hold during her teens. Lured into gaming with the 7th generation by GTA IV, and a few years later intrigued by reviewing games, and now she's running gamingirl since 2009.

3 Comments for X – Are we seeing the end of harassment soon?

  1. Søren Rosendahl
    27 March, 2012 at 16:23

    From a males point of view..

    I have been playing mmo’s pretty much all my life (since ragnarok beta), and I have seen my share of chauvanism and sexist remarks…. This however has changed drastically the past years, starting (in my case) in Dark age of Camelot.
    Now, boys/men seek out guilds and clans who have females simply because it makes for a better atmosphere and a nicer tone in chat and on voicecomms, wich in turn makes people work together better, act less selfishly, and in general just makes the game more enjoyable for everyone…. Btw, I’m not just talking out of my arse here, I have had this discussion with many guys from both DaoC, WoW, Eve and a number of other games…

    For now I cant even imagine playing in a guild without females, because I remember how it was before you (girls) really started getting into the games, or had to hide to avoid the constant nagging of horny teenagers…

    I was lucky enough to join a very nice alliance that was actually run by a couple of females in DaoC, and have since kept contact with all of them, even as most of us transferred to WoW, we kept together and slowly built a VERY strong guild, consisting solely of mature grownups helping eachother achieve their goals (however ridiculus they did seem…. girls and their cosmetics <3 ).
    By now it has developed into a RL-type relationship, where I have met a few of them and their families, and we speak regularly on Skype (most are from the US). I believe its going to be lifelong friendships, atleast I hope so…

    I can only say "keep pwning", we are alot that appreciate what you bring to the table, both in empathy, organisation and skills … No its not fun to get your butt handed to you in a duel "by a girl", but it's those kinds of things that makes a game fun… Challenge and mocking rights! XD

    Keep it up and nevermind the arseholes…. But dont expect us to take it easy on you ingame either, we will beat you to the ground if we can!!

  2. Ehekky
    17 May, 2012 at 22:57

    “Nothing big, I know, but I was proud. Maybe decency and feminism will penetrate even the deepest corners of the internet nerd man cave”

    It’s good that harassment is slowly disappearing, it would always be better if it decreased even faster, but at least it’s a development in the right direction.
    But… a few things in this closing comment do annoy me. The first thing is the word ‘feminism’, I know it’s probably just me, but in the last couple of years, this word really started to annoy me, because more than half of the times that I (personal experience) have encountered it, it wasn’t aimed at gender equality, but female supremacy. Silly, I know, but it annoys me nonetheless.
    The second thing annoying me is the use of ‘nerd man cave’ in a generalizing fashion in the same sentence with the word ‘decency’. I get it that it’s well worth to point out a decreasing generalization, but to use another one at the same time leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

    Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not all being pro-male, but the closing comment just rubs me the wrong way. I do get the seriousness of the problem. I have left countless XBL Parties because of irritating or harassing guys, even without women being in the parties.

    So I get that women can encounter difficulties in the deepest corners of the gaming crowd, but many gamers can encounter the same difficulties when crawling out of those corners. nerdyfeminist234234 should know better than to use those terms so lightly.

    Greetings, a Male Gamer

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